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Really Dumb Things ... People Do

Are You Kidding?

You probably won't believe the following ... but they are true.
When you read the following ... you likely will say "You have got to be kidding!   Who would do something like this?"   We're not kidding these things are true.   If you don't see how crazy these things are ... well ... not to be harsh or mean ... but might want to check on yourself?  These are not some things to be proud of.  

Something To Be Proud Of

Something NOT To Be Proud Of!

People Will Judge!
People are funny ... or not so much.   When you think about what a father, mother and siblings go through ... what would you think they are experiencing?  
Why do people make it about them?   Is it because they do this every day ... and it's a reflex so they don't think about it and do what they normally do?  
ACTION #1 ~ Be Thankful
"God offends the mind to reveal the heart." 
Jim Bontrager
People being selfish and self centered?
What do you see in the following email?
When people are around others with traumatic situations, more incline to be selfish and self centered?   There are so many of these situations which happened to the Boersma family, they have just learned to laugh about it.   

This is shared not to shame those who are high-lighted (most people, who say things which are so stupid, won't be shamed, but will go further into their own self absorbed lives.  Hopefully this will make you laugh ... and feel bad for those people who are like this and work really hard, for each of us, to not be like this ourselves ... ideally not in daily life ... but especially around death.   You never know ... maybe someone will highlight you?   :-)   What's always kind of funny is when people say something stupid ... is how they try to come back and explain themselves ... which often leads to them opening them mouths even further and revealing all doubt of how stupid they are.  
If you read the following and you don't see what we saw ... it's alright.   It's NOT that you would ever say or do something so stupid.   It's not like there is a car which may fall on you while you're working.  :-)
On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 8:25 PM Patti Boersma <patti.boersma6@gmail.com> wrote:

Rosanna,

This is a personal note to you, Rosanna! I need to speak above the noise. I do apologize that I have not reached out to you in the past year, but what I told Mark is true - I cannot and will not subject myself to Mark! I will not be called “lazy and stupid” and be told that I “talk like a black woman”! He and I have had one conversation in the last two decades and he knows nothing about me, my husband, my family and our ways of blessing people, ministries,etc with the gifts and abilities that God has entrusted to us. 

Please know that what I told Mark on the phone is true. YOU are on my prayer list! Your heart and emotions are on my prayer list! I do love you and pray for you OFTEN, but a wall is there with Mark’s name on it and that’s where it will stop! He is the sole reason I have not reached out to you. I know he thinks it’s a trite “Christian” thing to just say, “I will pray for you.” But I believe that God takes our prayers and brings people into our lives that can minister to the prayers and requests being made on your behalf! 

I’m hoping you find people where you are now located and am praying to that end. I pray that God gives you peace. I know I can’t enter into your pain, but I know that doesn’t lessen my hope that God continues to wrap His arms around you. You will remain on my prayer list, but I won’t cross that line where I subject myself to hate and disrespect from Mark ever again.

Patti
On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 8:25 PM Patti Boersma <patti.boersma6@gmail.com> wrote:
Rosanna,
This is a personal note to you, Rosanna! 
Did You See?   When Patti says "personal note, it would seem to indicate that she would like to keep this private ... like Rosanna's mom did when her dad as sexually abusing her from age 12 to 19 or maybe even longer.   ~ click here ~ for more dumb things that certain genders do and how the other gender protects them.

In spite of Patti saying it was personal, Patti did check with her husband Vern, who professes to be a devout Christian and is a CPA, and he approved the message.   Often abusers, of all types like to hide what they do and/or control the message they deliver.  It's all about them.
I need to speak above the noise. I do apologize that I have not reached out to you in the past year, but 
Did You See?   It's always cute when someone tries to lift themselves higher than others and never even think about how condescending they are.   What they are saying is not "noise" but what others are saying is noise.   

Don't you LOVE when people apologize and then but a big old "BUT" there?  They are not justifying their actions, they are truly sorry ... but ... they do want you to know it's not their fault.  :-)  Why do people have such a hard time in taking personal ownership ... especially around the suicide death of a nephew to his mother?  Who does something like this?   
I do apologize that I have not reached out to you in the past year, but what I told Mark is true - I cannot and will not ... 
Did You See?   Do you ever find it funny / interesting when people use their WORDS to make something true because their actions reveal something else to be true and they are hoping that you are one of those people who values words far more than deeds.   Watch what comes next ... :-)  It get's better with each and every word.   People are funny or some my call them stupid?
I do apologize that I have not reached out to you in the past year, but what I told Mark is true - I cannot and will not subject myself to Mark! I will not be called “lazy and stupid” and be told ...
Did You See?   What Patti is saying here is ... "Rosanna, you son died a violent death and I'm to stupid and lazy to text or call you ... and it's not my fault ... that I'm like the way I am, it's your husband's fault.   

Often people somehow connect what is being said to what they really are and then they blame the person who didn't say the words ... but somehow magically help to reveal who they really are and attack the messenger.  Wait ... it gets even better.
... and be told that I “talk like a black woman”! 
Did You See?   Hmmm ... that's interesting.   So how does a Black women talk?  Does Patti think that a Black women talks in a bad way?  Does she was a white women think that she is better than Black women?  

Now Patti may think of herself as a great listener ... but ... well guessing that a lot of Black Women my not think that white women are the best listens.   In Mark's experience Black women are confident, strong and powerful.  Many Black women are single moms and teach their boys to be strong, take ownership and know that if they have to step in for their boys or their husbands that they are emasculating the men in their lives.   

Patti may not see that she is defending her husband because he's not strong enough to stand up for himself, but now allowing one's boy / husband to learn to fight like a man ... often will make him weak and dependent.   

If this was said ... which is very likely that Mark would not give Patti such a great compliment but if it was said then why wouldn't Patti take this as a compliment rather than something negative and why with her husband approving of the email before it would be sent, not see this and help is wife to see the errors of his way ... UNLESS of course ... both Vern and Patti were thinking totally of themselves and not of Rosanna ... the month of the dead son?   

Nope ... sadly ... but so true about Black women is that they wouldn't wait almost a year to connect but would be all over this and caring about Rosanna in a way that certain white women like Patti may never have the blessings to feel a selfless care for others.  

Wait ... it gets even better!  
He and I have had one conversation in the last two decades and he knows nothing about me, my husband, my family and our ways of blessing people, ministries, etc. with the gifts and abilities that God has entrusted to us. 
Did You See?   Wait a minute?   If Rosanna's husband Mark has only had one conversation in the last two decades then why in the world would Patti have such a HUGE issue with Mark and when is Patti saying that Mark said these things that he said?   If it was the conversation which seemed to trigger this email ... then it takes away poor Patti's argument about how traumatized she was by Rosanna's husband and reveals the truth about herself which wasn't said to her in words ... but as a women, as a sister in law, as a mother of three sons and one daughter ... it would seem that Patti convicts herself about what type of a women she is.  

Hmmm ... could it be ... is it possible that Rosanna's husband never said anything bad about Patti but just about her husband?   Is it possible that her husband is not who he seems and wants to present himself to be?   

Is it true that her husband called Mark a few days after Jonathan's death and offered to help Mark and the family three times and Mark said ... "Well Vern, if you would like to help, then you or Patti could connect with this single mom, who has been abused maybe 5 minutes a week to give her encouragement."  
Is it true that Vern than replied ...
"Mark, you have no idea what is going on in my life!!!"  
Mark was so surprised by the sense of urgency and, pain and drama in Vern's voice that he was taken aback and said ... "Sorry Vern, I don't know.  What's going on in your life?"
Vern said ... 
"Mark, I have tax deadlines coming up!!!"  
You might think that a few days after the death of your son and everything that Mark, his wife and family were going through that Mark would be upset, but he wasn't.   He just laughed and thought ... "Vern is Vern and that's probably what he'll always be.
Did You See?   If you're thinking this can't possibly be true.   Let me get this straight ... "Vern calls a few days after Mark's son commits suicide in the way that he did and Vern won't take 5 minutes a week to help someone else and the biggest thing that Vern has on his mind is a tax deadline?"

If this is shocking to you ... well ... you may not know very many devout Christian white males over 50 who seemed to have figured it out how to game the system and give a little money here and there and attend church and overall be a pretty good person ... but inside ... well ... maybe not as righteous and Godly as they think they are and/or others around them think they are either?  

If you are a CPA, don't worry.  We're sure that the world won't do to you as they do to young Black men and think that everyone of you is like Vern.   Some call it the CWM50+ "Christian White Male over 50" syndrome and many are starting to wonder if many of the worlds problems are due to this group of people.   
Please know that what I told Mark on the phone is true. YOU are on my prayer list! Your heart and emotions are on my prayer list! I do love you and pray for you OFTEN, but ... 
Did You See?   Do you see how it comes up yet again where we are using our words rather of something being true rather than using our actions.   You can see it also in the words of love and pray ... and ... there you see it again ... the "but."

For Christians and Christian woman do you think that God would have you pray for someone or pick up the phone or text someone to just see how they are doing? 
I do love you and pray for you OFTEN, but a wall is there with Mark’s name on it and that’s where it will stop! He is the sole reason I have not reached out to you. 
Did You See?   Christians are so hard on the Black community and anyone else while they sit in the ivory palaces and judge other people and aren't able to see the plank in their own eyes.   

White Christian women often huddle around one another and through prayer gossip.  They judge the children of single moms or children in the inner city for not taking personal ownership while Patti can't even take 1% ownership of what would be her own cold and hardened and non caring heart so she blames it on the husband?  

Who does something like this a week before the one year anniversary?

Good news for Patti.   Rossana isn't upset with about what you did or even what you said about her husband.   She just laughed and said ... "Doesn't Patti know that I have my own phone and she could have call or texted me?"   

The wonderful gift that Rosanna has that Patti and many other white Christian do not have is perspective.   So many "devout" CWW50+ "Christian White Women" get upset about the silliest things ... whereas Rosanna, who was sexually abused by her dad for 6+ years from 12 to 19 and has her son commit suicide with her other teenage son present.   
I know he thinks it’s a trite “Christian” thing to just say, “I will pray for you.” But I believe that God takes our prayers and brings people into our lives that can minister to the prayers and requests being made on your behalf! I’m hoping you find people where you are now located and am praying to that end. I pray that God gives you peace. I know I can’t enter into your pain, but I know that doesn’t lessen my hope that God continues to wrap His arms around you. You will remain on my prayer list, but ... 
Did You See?   What a smart women Patti is where she "knows" what Rosanna's husband thinks.  

Don't worry Christian, white women over 50 ... Patti's behaviors won't impact how people think of you ... or will it?   I mean, as Christian women you, don't ever put other women or men in a box and judge them from your limited knowledge and experience with that type of person ... so ... I'm sure others won't do that to you.  

Pretty interesting to think about these things.   We're thankful to Mark and Rosanna Boersma for being willing to be interviewed for this and having the courage to allow us to post thoughts and insights from them.  

Also what a nice person this Patti is ... or at least she uses a lot of nice words.  It would be too much to ask as she's got a husband who has tax deadlines so that probably creates a lot of trauma so you can't expect Patti to pick up the phone and/or even take 30 seconds to text.  

I mean ... a guy that you have one conversation in two decades that's go to be 

What is it with the "but" for Patti?   Seems like there's not even a thought about it ... or caution that maybe she struggles with taking personal ownership and while she may "get away with it" with her husband, children and friends that the self-center attitude with a grieving mother she my not escape this.   
I know I can’t enter into your pain, but I know that doesn’t lessen my hope that God continues to wrap His arms around you. You will remain on my prayer list, but I won’t cross that line where I subject myself to hate and disrespect from Mark ever again.
Patti
Did You See?   It's pretty interesting isn't it.  Patti doesn't has only one conversation with Mark in over 20 years and that's a conversation between brothers Vern and Mark.   Maybe in retrospect Vern will see the wisdom in not sharing everything with Patti?   Maybe Vern can take stronger leadership in his marriage / home and take personal ownership in putting Patti into in a situation which, it would seem, based on her own words, she does not have the emotional or mental capabilities to handle?  

We are thankful that it seems like Patti didn't do any damage to Rosanna or anyone else ... but herself.  Based on her email, the patterns of how she seems to think, based on the email that she will probably not take personal ownership for her own feelings and the words that she used which could have hurt Rosanna, Mark and their kids even more than they already are hurting.

Patti, seems to be like a lot of Christians who ... well ... may not be so self-aware.   

People often project onto others what is in their own heart.   It would seem that Patti may have a lot of hate in her own heart and the disrespect that she shows Rosanna in this email a week before the one year anniversary ... well ... that's just kind of sad.  

Will Vern now see how maybe he should have intervened and recommended that Patti not send this email or pointed out some of the kind of crazy things she shared?   If he can see even 1% of where he and his wife were off?  Will Patti listen to him if he does or is she so locked into where she feel hurt by something that was said about her husband that she is totally reckless.

If Patti and/or Vern seek to come back and redo the email, the words which Patti shared and Vern approved and/or explain what they meant by the words ... this will be normal.  If they come back and apologize and use the word "but" we might recommend not to do that.

If they do apologize and then add that they didn't mean hurt Rosanna or Mark, that will reveal that this is not an unusual thing for them.   Don't worry Vern and Patti, Mark and Rosanna shared ... "We know that Vern and Patti didn't intentionally mean to hurt us ... we get that."  We may add that are Mark and Rosanna supposed to feel better that Vern and Patti may not be intentional evil and seeking to hurt people ... but they just do it as a reflex it seems maybe out of being ignorant or stupid.    

We have shared this with Vern, Patti and Mark and Rosanna for any thoughts or changes or clarification.

Again, we are thankful to Mark and Rosanna Boersma for being willing to be interviewed for this and having the courage to allow us to post thoughts and insights from them.  We at "Do You Hear My Voice Now" may not have totally understood what Mark and Rosanna were saying or may not have shared it fully.  

Mark and Rosanna's hopes and prayers are that this will encourage the hearts of those who have been through truly great trauma (they don't see it that way so much), and help those who have been through it to realize that if people do or say stupid things to you ... you are not alone.  Best to just laugh it off and maybe share your story of "stupid people" with us.  

For those who call themselves Christians it might be good to not say ... "I'm not like Vern and/or Patti."   They and many of the people around them, would probably say they don't think they are like what Patti and Vern have revealed about themselves.   

If you have a fear of "being found out" or "being discovered" then there is pretty strong risk that you aren't what you / others think you are.  

Something NOT To Be Proud Of!

People Will Project ...
People are interesting ... in some very strange ways.  People who struggle with self-awareness will project them 
Why do people make it about them?   Is it because they do this every day ... and it's a reflex so they don't think about it and do what they normally do?  
ACTION #2 ~ Be Humble
"God offends the mind to reveal the heart." 
Jim Bontrager

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